Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

03/23/2023 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:04:08 PM Start
03:05:26 PM Confirmation Hearing(s): Department of Health, Commissioner
04:03:06 PM HB112
04:49:07 PM HB60
05:05:56 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Department of Health - Commissioner-Designee
Heidi Hedberg
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HB 112 PROFESSION OF PHARMACY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+= HB 60 RUNAWAYS; DFCS/DOH: DUTIES/LICENSING/INFO TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 60(HSS) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
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                  HB 112-PROFESSION OF PHARMACY                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 112, "An Act  relating to the Board  of Pharmacy;                                                               
relating  to the  practice of  pharmacy; relating  to pharmacies;                                                               
relating   to  prescription   drug  manufacturers;   relating  to                                                               
prescriptions for epinephrine; relating  to the administration of                                                               
epinephrine; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:03:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE, as prime sponsor, paraphrased the                                                                     
sponsor statement [included in committee packet], which read as                                                                 
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Pharmacists  and pharmacies  are  an  integral part  of                                                                    
     Alaska'  healthcare system.  It is  important that  the                                                                    
     Alaska  statutes  that  guide   them  are  updated  and                                                                    
     reflect   the    services   provided    by   modern-day                                                                    
     pharmacies.                                                                                                                
     House   Bill  112   clarifies  the   Alaska  Board   of                                                                    
     Pharmacy's powers and duties  to align with the federal                                                                    
     Drug Supply  Chain and Security Act  (DSCSA) related to                                                                    
     licensing and oversight  of manufacturers, out-of-state                                                                    
     pharmacies,   outsourcing   facilities,  and   internet                                                                    
     pharmacies  who conduct  business in  Alaska. In  doing                                                                    
     so,  these out-of-state  entities will  be held  to the                                                                    
     same high standard  as those operating in  the state of                                                                    
     Alaska,  helping  to  ensure Alaskans  have  access  to                                                                    
     medications  that  are  safe,   no  matter  where  they                                                                    
     originate.                                                                                                                 
     HB  112 aligns  Alaska's pharmacy  board statutes  with                                                                    
     similar boards  in other  states. It  allows for  it to                                                                    
     meaningfully  recognize retired  pharmacists and  their                                                                    
     contributions.  Stressing  the   importance  of  public                                                                    
     safety, HB  112 would  allow the  board to  institute a                                                                    
     national   criminal   background   check   for   Alaska                                                                    
     pharmacists and pharmacy  technicians. This would align                                                                    
     the  Alaska   Board  of  Pharmacy  with   the  National                                                                    
     Association   of  Boards   and  Pharmacy   Model  State                                                                    
     Pharmacy Act.                                                                                                              
     The Executive  Administrator plays  a critical  role in                                                                    
     the  smooth functioning  of the  board  and requires  a                                                                    
     high  degree of  competency  and  understanding of  the                                                                    
     complexities   of   pharmacy-related  regulations   and                                                                    
     issues.   This   bill   gives  Alaska's   Division   of                                                                    
     Professional Licensing flexibility  to hire a qualified                                                                    
     pharmacist  for  this  administrative role  should  one                                                                    
     apply.                                                                                                                     
     The  changes  proposed  in House  Bill  112  reflect  a                                                                    
     dedicated  collaboration between  the  Alaska Board  of                                                                    
     Pharmacy   and  the   Alaska  Pharmacists   Association                                                                    
     (AKPhA) to modernize pharmacy practice statutes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:05:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRAEDAN  GARRET, Staff,  Representative Justin  Ruffridge, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  on behalf of Representative  Ruffridge, prime                                                               
sponsor, read  the sectional analysis  for HB 112, which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section   1.  Amends   AS  08.08.010(a)   Creation  and                                                                    
     membership of board; officers                                                                                              
     Alters  composition   of  the  seven-member   Board  of                                                                    
     Pharmacy  by designating  one member  to be  a licensed                                                                    
     pharmacy technician,  and one being an  individual with                                                                    
     no financial interest in the healthcare industry                                                                           
     Section  2. Amends  AS 08.80.030  Powers and  Duties of                                                                    
     Board                                                                                                                      
     (b)(10)   Separates    out   the   licensing/regulating                                                                    
     entities relating to  manufacturing and distributing of                                                                    
     drugs and devices by use of the                                                                                            
     word "or"                                                                                                                  
     (b)(12)  adds  an  epinephrine  auto-injector  training                                                                    
     program                                                                                                                    
     (b)(14)  Clarifies that  only pharmacists  who dispense                                                                    
     federally scheduled  controlled substances  be required                                                                    
     to  register  with  the  Prescription  Drug  Monitoring                                                                    
     Program (PDMP)                                                                                                             
     (b)(16) Adds pharmacies  and manufacturers from out-of-                                                                    
     state  to  the list  of  entities  to be  licensed  and                                                                    
     inspected                                                                                                                  
     (b)(17) Adds  internet-based pharmacies to the  list of                                                                    
     entities to be licensed if they are servicing Alaskans                                                                     
     (b)(18) adds  language adopting  regulations pertaining                                                                    
     to retired pharmacist status                                                                                               
     Section  3.   Amends  08.80.145   Reciprocity;  license                                                                    
     transfer                                                                                                                   
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     (3)  removes character  requirement  -  "of good  moral                                                                    
     character"                                                                                                                 
     (4)  removes internship  details    this is  a national                                                                    
     standard among schools of pharmacy                                                                                         
     Renumbering of statute items                                                                                               
     Section 4. Amends AS 08.80.157 Licensing of facilities                                                                     
     (k)    this    adds   out-of-state    pharmacies    and                                                                    
     manufacturers  to the  list of  entities  that must  be                                                                    
     licensed and inspected                                                                                                     
     Section   5.   Amends   AS  08.80.159   Licensing   and                                                                    
     inspection of facilities outside the state                                                                                 
     (a)  Adds  "distributor,   pharmacy,  manufacturer"  to                                                                    
     those out-of-state  entities that must be  licensed and                                                                    
     inspected,  under the  Drug Supply  Chain and  Security                                                                    
     Act                                                                                                                        
     Section   6.   Amends   AS  08.80.159   Licensing   and                                                                    
     inspection of facilities outside the state                                                                                 
     (c) adds  "pharmacy and manufacturer" to  list that may                                                                    
     be inspected if located outside the state                                                                                  
     Section 7. Amends AS 08.80.160 Fees                                                                                        
     (10)  Removes the  word "registration"  since the  bill                                                                    
     mandates licensure of a facility                                                                                           
     Section 8.  Amends 08.80.168 and adds  a new subsection                                                                    
       Administration of vaccines and related emergencies                                                                       
     (e) Allows a pharmacist  to administer epinephrine to a                                                                    
     person  or  prescribe   epinephrine  auto-injectors  to                                                                    
     someone  who   has  completed  the   epinephrine  auto-                                                                    
     injector training program                                                                                                  
     Section 9. Amends  AS 08.80.270 Executive administrator                                                                    
     of the board                                                                                                               
     (a)  Adds an  additional  salary range  option for  the                                                                    
     executive administrator,  allowing flexibility  for the                                                                    
     Division to select a pharmacist for the role                                                                               
     Section  10. Amends  AS  08.80.420 Certain  advertising                                                                    
     prohibited                                                                                                                 
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     (a) adds  the term "apothecary"  to list of  those that                                                                    
     cannot  be  used in  media  or  advertising unless  the                                                                    
     store employs a licensed pharmacist with regular hours                                                                     
     Section  11.  Amends  AS  12.62.400  National  criminal                                                                    
     history record check                                                                                                       
     (a)(23)  adds  pharmacist  and pharmacy  technician  to                                                                    
     list  of  professions  where   a  background  check  is                                                                    
     required.  Aligns   with  State  of   Alaska's  nursing                                                                    
     requirements  and  pharmacy   requirements  typical  in                                                                    
     other  states. This  adds a  national level  background                                                                    
     check                                                                                                                      
     Section   12.   Amends   AS   17.22.010   Prescription,                                                                    
     purchase,  administration of  epinephrine by  a trained                                                                    
     individual                                                                                                                 
     Allows anyone over  18 to purchase or  be prescribed an                                                                    
     epinephrine    auto-injector,    and   to    administer                                                                    
     epinephrine in  an emergency to another  person if they                                                                    
     have  completed an  epinephrine auto-injector  training                                                                    
     program  approved   by  the  board.  It   removes  very                                                                    
     outdated language from this section                                                                                        
     Section   13.  Amends   AS  17.22.020(a)   Approval  of                                                                    
     training programs                                                                                                          
     (a) Allows  the board,  rather than the  department, to                                                                    
     adopt  standards  for   the  epinephrine  auto-injector                                                                    
     training program and deletes outdated language                                                                             
     Section   14.  Amends   AS  17.22.020(b)   Approval  of                                                                    
     training programs                                                                                                          
     (b) Allows  the board,  rather than the  department, to                                                                    
     approve an  epinephrine auto-injector  training program                                                                    
     that meets the board's standards                                                                                           
     Section 15. Amends AS 17.22.030 Applicability                                                                              
     States  that this  chapter does  not  apply to  someone                                                                    
     currently  authorized under  another law  to administer                                                                    
     epinephrine, such as  a nurse or doctor,  or some other                                                                    
     authorized professional                                                                                                    
     Section 16. Amends AS  17.22.040 Liability of certified                                                                    
     individual                                                                                                                 
     Outlines that a person may  not be sued who administers                                                                    
     epinephrine  to another  in an  emergency, and  in good                                                                    
     faith,  if  he or  she  has  completed the  epinephrine                                                                    
     auto-injector training program approved by the board                                                                       
     Section 17. Amends AS 17.22.090 Definitions                                                                                
     (3) defines the "board" as the Board of Pharmacy                                                                           
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     Section 18. Repeals  AS 08.80.110(2) Qualifications for                                                                    
     licensure by examination                                                                                                   
     •  Repeals (2)  furnish  the board  with  at least  two                                                                    
     affidavits from  reputable citizens that  the applicant                                                                    
     has  known  for at  least  one  year attesting  to  the                                                                    
     applicant's good moral character.  This is not required                                                                    
     in medical board, dental or nursing statutes.                                                                              
     • Repeals 08.80.158  Registration of pharmacies located                                                                    
     outside  the state  since this  bill would  now require                                                                    
     licensure                                                                                                                  
     •  Repeals AS  17.22.020(c) which  is the  Department's                                                                    
     epinephrine auto-injector training program                                                                                 
     • Repeals  AS 17.22.090(1) that defines  the department                                                                    
     as the Dept  of Health, since it will no  longer be the                                                                    
     approving  entity  of   the  epinephrine  auto-injector                                                                    
     training program                                                                                                           
     Section   19.   TRANSITION   LANGUAGE   for   currently                                                                    
     registered pharmacies                                                                                                      
     A new  section that  would allow  pharmacies previously                                                                    
     registered  to  continue  to   ship,  mail  or  deliver                                                                    
     prescription  drugs to  its customers  in Alaska  until                                                                    
     their  registration expires.  At that  time, they  will                                                                    
     then have to apply for licensure.                                                                                          
     Section 20. TRANSITION: REGULATIONS                                                                                        
     Allows  the  Board  of  Pharmacy  and  DCCED  to  adopt                                                                    
     regulations to carry  out the changes laid  out in this                                                                    
     legislation.                                                                                                               
     Section 21. Section 20 has  an immediate effective date                                                                    
     under AS 01.10.070(c)                                                                                                      
     Section 22: Effective date is  set to coincide with the                                                                    
     Drug Supply  Chain and Security  Act that will  go into                                                                    
     effect on November 26, 2023.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:13:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ASHLEY SCHABER,  Chair, Board of  Pharmacy, began  the PowerPoint                                                               
presentation  titled, "House  bill 112:  Profession of  Pharmacy"                                                               
[hardcover  included   in  committee  packet]  on   slide.    She                                                               
explained the mission  of the Board of Pharmacy, and  that HB 112                                                               
touches  on  goal  4.1  [shown  under  "strategies  on  slide  2]                                                               
relating  to regulation  and enforcement,  which read  as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Routinely  review  effectiveness  of  regulations  that                                                                    
     reduce  barriers  to   licensure  without  compromising                                                                    
     patient health and safety.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER also pointed to  4.4, which read as follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Advocate  for legislation  as  the pharmacy  profession                                                                    
     evolves and  new opportunities for  improvement patient                                                                    
     safety arise.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER further referenced the goal list, pointing to                                                                       
4.5, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Anticipate changes  to the  Drug Supply  Chain Security                                                                    
     Act and respond proactively.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER read slide 3, which read as follows [original                                                                       
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Background of HB 112                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     •Result of  multi year, multi chair  review of statutes                                                                    
     and regulations to ensure the Alaska Board of Pharmacy                                                                     
     can continue to meet its mission                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     •HB 112 addresses changes by:                                                                                              
     •Streamlining licensure process  while improving public                                                                    
     safety                                                                                                                     
     •Compliance with the Drug Supply Chain and Security                                                                        
     Act                                                                                                                        
     •Alignment  with other  professional  boards in  Alaska                                                                    
     and pharmacy boards in other states                                                                                        
     •Clarification  of  pharmacists' roles  in  epinephrine                                                                    
     access                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •Collaborative  effort  between  the  Alaska  Board  of                                                                    
     Pharmacy and the Alaska Pharmacists Association                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:15:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER moved to slide 4, which read as follows [original                                                                   
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Goal:  Streamline  licensure  process  while  improving                                                                    
     public safety                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     •Eliminates  unnecessary  forms currently  required  in                                                                    
     statute                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     •Clarifies   that   only   pharmacists   who   dispense                                                                    
     controlled  substances are  required  to register  with                                                                    
     the Prescription Drug Monitoring Program (PDMP)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •Adds national criminal background check                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER read slide 5, which read as follows [original                                                                       
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Goal: Compliance  with Drug  Supply Chain  and Security                                                                    
     Act                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •The  federal  Drug  Supply   Chain  and  Security  Act                                                                    
     (DSCSA) further secures the U.S.  drug supply through a                                                                    
     system  to  prevent  harmful drugs  from  entering  the                                                                    
     supply chain,  detect harmful drugs  if they  do enter,                                                                    
     and enable rapid response when such drugs are found                                                                        
     •Boards of  Pharmacy play  a key  role in  this process                                                                    
     through appropriate licensing  of drug distributors and                                                                    
     pharmacies                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •HB 112  ensures the  AK Board  of Pharmacy  powers and                                                                    
     duties support the DSCSA  related to manufacturers, out                                                                    
     of state pharmacies, and  internet pharmacies to ensure                                                                    
     Alaskans receive safe medications                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:18:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER directed attention to slide 6, which read as follows                                                                
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Goal: Alignment                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •Replaces one  of the  two public  member seats  with a                                                                    
     pharmacy                                                                                                                   
     technician seat                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •Allows  the  board  to   adopt  language  for  retired                                                                    
     pharmacist status                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •Clarifies the board  executive administrator's salary,                                                                    
     allowing flexibility for a pharmacist  to serve in this                                                                    
     role in the future                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER showed slide 7, which read as follows [original                                                                     
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Goal: Epinephrine Access                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     •Adds  epinephrine  training  program  under  Board  of                                                                    
     Pharmacy Oversight                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •Clarifies   that    a   pharmacist    can   administer                                                                    
     epinephrine to  a person or prescribe  epinephrine auto                                                                    
     injectors  to someone  who has  completed the  training                                                                    
     program                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     •Increases   epinephrine  access   for  Alaskans   with                                                                    
     anaphylactic emergencies                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:22:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER concluded the presentation on slide 8, which read as                                                                
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Support                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     •The  Board  of  Pharmacy  respectfully  requests  your                                                                    
     support of  HB 112,  allowing us  to further  promote ,                                                                    
     preserve, and  protect the  public health,  safety, and                                                                    
        welfare of Alaskans by and through the effective                                                                        
     control and regulation of the practice of pharmacy.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •Thank you for your time!                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:22:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS inquired  as  to what  type  of person  is                                                               
considered  as  someone that  has  a  financial interest  in  the                                                               
healthcare industry.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER answered  that it is in statute, which  is that it is                                                               
a person that  is a public member that has  no financial interest                                                               
in the healthcare  industry.  She said that such  a person brings                                                               
a public consumer interest to the board.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  asked  what   the  current  board  member                                                               
requirements are, other than just being a member of the public.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHABER  deferred  the  question   to  the  division.    She                                                               
mentioned  statute and  said that  no financial  interest is  the                                                               
biggest change.  She said  that a willingness to attend quarterly                                                               
meetings and a commitment to the work involved is required.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:24:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  added  that there  are  currently  two                                                               
public  member positions  on  the board  with  only one  recently                                                               
filled.   He  stated that  it has  been difficult  to get  public                                                               
members to serve due to  the time commitment requirement, as well                                                               
as low  willingness from  a member  of the public  to serve  on a                                                               
board for a  profession they may not know  much about; therefore,                                                               
HB  112 would  change one  of the  public seats  to a  technician                                                               
position.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:25:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS commented  that  he likes  the  idea.   He                                                               
asked  what Representative  Ruffridge  sees as  the  role of  the                                                               
board in supporting training for pharmacy technicians.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE responded that,  during his time serving                                                               
on the Board of Pharmacy, that  was an item of interest, and that                                                               
regulations were  passed to add  a certified  pharmacy technician                                                               
as a specific  individual recognized in regulatory  practice.  He                                                               
explained   that  certified   pharmacy   technicians  in   Alaska                                                               
currently have the  ability to do final  checks on prescriptions,                                                               
if  the prescription  had a  drug  utilization review  done by  a                                                               
pharmacist,  and  administer  vaccinations,   as  examples.    He                                                               
stressed  that there  is an  effort  in the  industry to  promote                                                               
pharmacy technicians as being a "middle step."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:26:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   observed  that,   if  there   are  four                                                               
pharmacists on  the board right  now, it wouldn't  seem necessary                                                               
to have  the executive director  be a  pharmacist.  He  asked why                                                               
the executive director is required to be a pharmacist.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE responded that,  in his time as previous                                                               
member of the  Board of Pharmacy, as well as  a pharmacist, there                                                               
is a  lot of work to  be an executive administrator  of the Board                                                               
of  Pharmacy,  and members  are  expected  to have  a  deep-level                                                               
understanding  of what  the department  does for  licensing.   He                                                               
said that many licensing and  professional questions are directed                                                               
to the executive  administrator, and there would  be a disconnect                                                               
if  they had  knowledge  of the  pharmacy  profession since  they                                                               
would  have to  go to  the board  to answer  every question.   He                                                               
added that a  pharmacist serving in the role  is current practice                                                               
in many states.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:29:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER added that the five  pharmacists on the board are all                                                               
volunteers and  work full time,  so they  don't have the  time to                                                               
address the questions.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA asked  how out-of-state  entities are  being                                                               
regulated currently.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  answered  that   they  are  not.    He                                                               
explained that  they are required  to register in the  state, but                                                               
the Board of Pharmacy   if  the entity is dispensing or providing                                                               
services into  the state    has no  option to protect  or promote                                                               
the safety and wellbeing of  Alaska patients because the entities                                                               
are not licensed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:31:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER elaborated that the change  in HB 112 gives the board                                                               
oversight.     She  explained  that   currently  it  is   only  a                                                               
registration that acknowledges that  they are providing services.                                                               
She explained  that if there  was a safety concern  regarding the                                                               
out of state pharmacy, the board has no oversight.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:32:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA asked  how  prevalent out-of-state  entities                                                               
are and what kinds of businesses they are.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER pointed  to mail-order pharmacies as  an example, and                                                               
that  some   of  the   out-of-state  pharmacies   are  considered                                                               
compounding  pharmacies  that  provide  either  sterile  or  non-                                                               
sterile  compounds, medications,  eye  drops,  and injections  to                                                               
patients in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:33:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  asked  about fentanyl  being  present  in                                                               
adulterated drugs, and how pharmacies are adapting to this.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  answered  that  it  is  a  very  large                                                               
concern and has always been a  concern since fentanyl is one type                                                               
of the adulterated/counterfeit medications  that's been seen.  He                                                               
explained that getting a clearer  picture of what the drug supply                                                               
chain  looks like  was one  of the  reasons why  the Drug  Supply                                                               
Chain Act  is at  the federal  level, as  adulterated medications                                                               
are being sent  to Alaska often through Internet  pharmacies.  He                                                               
said  the  bill  contains  changes to  comply  with  requirements                                                               
within federal regulation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:35:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER  added that  the bill does  address giving  the board                                                               
oversight of Internet pharmacies, and  that access to naloxone is                                                               
important.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:35:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS shared  that he is a parent,  and that when                                                               
his kids get  sick, it makes him think about  how gaps in primary                                                               
care  could lead  to  expensive  care.   He  asked  if there  are                                                               
opportunities  for   the  board   to  work  with   other  primary                                                               
healthcare providers in an effort to reduce such gaps.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:36:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE responded  that  there will  be a  more                                                               
detailed answer from  him later; there is an  extensive number of                                                               
opportunities for pharmacists  to fill gaps in care.   During the                                                               
pandemic, pharmacies across  the state filled in  roles that they                                                               
did  not  historically provide.    He  relayed  that there  is  a                                                               
nationwide  push for  pharmacists  to be  given provider  status,                                                               
something HB  112 does not do,  but the state has  taken steps to                                                               
promote the ability  of pharmacists to take such steps.   He said                                                               
there is  a barrier in the  fact that pharmacies are  a difficult                                                               
business  to  be in,  with  many  across  the state  and  country                                                               
closing because there are many challenges.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   asked  for   the  number   of  licensed                                                               
pharmacists in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER  deferred the question  to the division.   She shared                                                               
that there  has been  a challenge in  ensuring that  licenses are                                                               
processed quickly.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:40:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN  ROB, Director,  Division of  Corporations, Business,  and                                                               
Professional  Licensing, Department  of Commerce,  Community, and                                                               
Economic  Development,  answered that,  as  of  today, there  are                                                               
1,049   licensed   pharmacists   and  1,206   licensed   pharmacy                                                               
technicians.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:41:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SUMNER asked how  many registered pharmacies there                                                               
are.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:41:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROB  answered that she  doesn't know  how many but  would get                                                               
that information to the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:42:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  thanked members  for hearing  the bill.                                                               
He said  the hearing has been  a good start in  promoting changes                                                               
that have  been worked on  for a long time.   He shared  that the                                                               
chair  before  him  would  be  proud  that  members  are  finally                                                               
bringing to bear a process they started a number of years ago.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS shared  that Representative  Ruffridge had                                                               
previously shared  that some  regulatory reforms  around staffing                                                               
could help address "pharmacy deserts" in  the state.  He asked if                                                               
there are other  reforms to be thinking about to  help bring more                                                               
pharmacies to places that are unserved.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE responded  that  pharmacies closing  is                                                               
due  to the  high barrier  entry, namely  in payroll  costs.   He                                                               
pointed  out that  some corporate  pharmacies  are going  through                                                               
staff reduction,  even while the  numbers of  prescriptions being                                                               
dispensed go up.  He elaborated  that a lot of pharmacies operate                                                               
as a  net loss  to large  corporations because  there is  a small                                                               
margin; a big component in altering  that is the role of pharmacy                                                               
technicians  becoming more  of a  manager  while pharmacists  act                                                               
more as  clinical oversight  for a pharmacy.   He  explained that                                                               
tele-pharmacies allow a pharmacy to  operate in an urban setting;                                                               
downtown   Anchorage,  as   an   example,   has  three   pharmacy                                                               
technicians with the pharmacists  being more centrally located in                                                               
a larger  facility and  using technology  to remotely  access the                                                               
prescriptions that are  being dispensed.  He  explained that this                                                               
is  an option  that  already  has statute  to  govern  it, and  a                                                               
barrier to  it was changing  regulations related to  the pharmacy                                                               
technician's  capacity, something  the board  has changed,  which                                                               
opens the option now for pharmacy deserts.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:46:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX announced HB 112 was held over.                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 112 Sectional Analysis .pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
HB 112 Sponsor Statement Version B.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
HB0112A.PDF HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
Heidi Hedberg Resume 2023.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB112 HSS Hearing slides 3.23.23.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
HB 60 CS Version S.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 60
HB 60 Sectional Analysis (Version S) 3-23-23.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 60
HB 60 Explanation of Changes Version A to Verson S (3-23-23).pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 60
HB 112 Support as of 3_21 Redacted.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
HB 112 Fiscal Note DCCED.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112